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EUDC 2008, you can still register Print E-mail
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Saturday, 19 April 2008

Well after a great rush for the places in the second phase of the registration for Tallinn EUDC 2008, there were a couple of cancelations, so this means that if you missed the application, or if you have a couple of people, that would still like to go, you can still apply and maybe you will get a spot. But do not hasitate and do not wait, because you willl be late.

Read on:

 

Dear debaters,

 EUDC 2008 Tallinn team has news for you. We are going to OPEN REGISTRATION for Euros for the VERY LAST TIME. Registration will open on Monday, 21 April, at 12:00 GMT as usual.

We had to delete several teams after payment deadline for Phase 2 passed and there was only one team in the waiting list, so we are now making an open call to fill the remaining available places. There are 9 team places available at the moment, but this number may increase (due to cancellations etc).

It is possible to register adjudicators only if required by the n-1 rule (if you have for ex. 2 teams and 1 judge registered now, you will need to register another judge together with your 3rd team).

Registration will be open for all institutions that have less than 3 teams registered by now. This basically means that the only restrictions this time are the institutional team cap of 3 and the n-1 adjudicator rule. (At the end of the day of course also the general team cap of 160.) If your institution has no teams registered so far, it is possible to register up to 3 teams, if you have 1 team in, then you can add up to 2 more etc.

All new registrations will go directly to the waiting list at first. The main list is closed, but we will then start to upgrade the first registered teams from the waiting list. We can only upgrade as many teams as we have places available, so if you get on the waiting list, this does not mean that you are guaranteed a place at the tournament. Unfortunately.

After filling in the registration form at our website www.eudc2008.eu, you will receive an invoice, but do not pay it at once! You have to pay the participation fee only after you have been upgraded into the main list and have received an e-mail from our Registrations Coordinator Liina. She will inform you by e-mail if your team (and judge) has a place in the main list and you will then have 10 days to make the payment. Therefore please also make sure you enter a correct remitter's e-mail address, so we can contact you.

And that's it. If you have not registered before, then to become familiar with the registration process please read our website's Registration section, FAQ's section and posts under Info for Participants.

Finally, we are still waiting for e-mails from participants that do not have passwords yet. If you registered as x's and y's, we need the names of debaters (and judges) and their e-mail addresses in order to send them new passwords. Please contact Maarja at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it to receive your password. We also remind you that the Estonian Air promotional code that gives you a 10% discount on plane tickets to Tallinn is available after you log in to the website.

Good luck to everyone with registration.

Kind regards,

EUDC 2008 Tallinn team




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Phase 3 opened - EUDC Print E-mail
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Tuesday, 15 April 2008

Dear debaters,

 

We are glad to announce that Phase 3 of registration is now open!

 

Phase 3 will stay open until 15 May. Every participant should now find the confirmation e-mail received after registration and use the password in the e-mail to log in to our website. You will find the ‚Login' button in the upper right corner of our website www.eudc2008.eu. We ask you to provide ALL the required information by 15 May.

 

After logging in you will also find the Estonian Air promotional code in the travel details section.. Please note that this code is meant for use by participants only. For more information about the discount see my previous e-mail or check our website (Host city – Getting to).

 

PASSWORDS. I know many of you still don't have a password for Phase 3. The reason might be that  at registration your name and e-mail address was not entered at all (there are many xx's registered) or it was faulty. If you are missing the password or it doesn't work, please send me an e-mail to This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it and I will help.

 

Please note that the passwords are for personal use! Every participant has to log in with his/her personal e-mail and password and can see and change only his/her personal information. So you were not supposed to receive one common password for your team or for your institution, but a password for personal use. If you now realize that you are missing the password, contact me and we'll solve the problem.

 

REGISTRATION. As the payments deadline was 13 April, we do not yet have a full overview of the final number of confirmed teams and judges. We have already had a few cancellations, too. During this week it will be decided if we need to open the registration once more to fill the remaining places. If we decide to do this, we shall post a notification a few days in advance on our website. Please stay updated.

 

Yours,

 

  • EUDC 2008 Tallinn team




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Phase 2 opened and closed - Tallinn Print E-mail
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Monday, 31 March 2008

Webmaster:

This is what I call a fight for the EUDC places. 61 teams in 6 minutes. This is what I have expected for the first phase, and it didn't happen. But if you are on the waiting list, there is a chance that you will get in, because Im sure that a lot of Institutions registered teams that are not going to come. I know we have done that, and there is a chance that the team we have registered is not attending, so I hope that the spot goes to you.

 

Dear all,

We would like to shortly inform you of how today's registration
process went and prevent justified questions that may arise when
looking at the list of registered teams.

Today at 12:00 GMT Phase 2 of registration was opened. The team cap
was filled, that is 61 teams were registered, in only 6 minutes! All
institutions that registered after this were put in a waiting list.
The waiting list is open until the end of the week, to get in the
list you simply need to register yourself using the same reg form.
There will be several teams deleted due to accidental double
registration and there may be cancellations also later, so it is
definitely worth to put yourself in the waiting list!

It happened that some teams registered themselves twice of even three
times during Phase 2. This is an anomaly that we are going to
liquidate by going through the list of registrants and cancelling all
such excessive registrations. We will certainly keep to our promise
that only 1 team per institution could be additionally registered.
Only the first institution team registered in Phase 2 will remain in
the list. To make it very clear, this of course does NOT concern
teams registered in Phase 1, whose status has already been Confirmed
or waiting to be confirmed shortly.

Please don't pay the invoices just yet! We will make another notice
about which teams are registered and which registrations are
cancelled today or tomorrow. As earlier, questions about payments
should be addressed to This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it and general questions to
This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Yours,

EUDC 2008 team





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EUDC 2nd phase of registration Print E-mail
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Sunday, 30 March 2008

Webmaster says: This email was send to me a couple of days ago, but I was not able to print it here, even I need some private time :D Enjoy, and register teams if you haven't yet. It opens tomorow.

 

 

Dear debaters,

As you all probably know and many of you anticipate, registration to EUDC 2008 Tallinn is about to move to Phase 2. The new wave of registrations begins on Monday, 31 March, at 12:00 GMT. Below you will find a description of how Phase 2 works. Please note that due to the massive interest in registration we have been compelled to make a few modifications to the registration procedure. Therefore we found it necessary to give you a rather detailed overview of the registration procedure, to make everything very clear and registration as easy as possible.

 

So:

 

Phase 2 opens on Monday, 31 March, at 12:00 (lunchtime) GMT. There are 61 team places available for debaters and 42 places available for adjudicators. These numbers include the 40 team places that we initially saved for Phase 2, as well as the places of those teams and judges who registered during Phase 1, but have dropped out for various reasons (sadly, most cancellations were made due to failure to pay the registration fee on time).

 

Registration of teams: In Phase 2 each institution, regardless of whether they have any teams already registered or not, is allowed to register only 1 additional team. It might be that for some institutions this is their 1st team and for some it is the 3rd team. Even if your institution has not registered before, you still get only one place.

 

Also a waiting list of institutions (!) will be created. After the team cap of 160 is filled, registrations continue, but teams will be assigned places below the line according to the time of registration. The waiting list is open for institutions who have not been able to register their team in Phase 2. This means that an institution who already has 3 teams registered, can not put their 4th team on the waiting list. Also institutions who did not register in Phase 1, but registered their one and only team in Phase 2, are not able to put their 2nd team on the waiting list.

 

Registration of adjudicators: In Phase 2 it is possible to register only n-1 adjudicators. This means that if an institution already has 2 teams and 2 (or more) judges registered and they will register another, 3rd, team, they will not be able to register any more adjudicators because according to the n-1 rule an institution is required to provide exactly and only 2 judges. If you have for example 2 teams and 1 adjudicator listed, then you are able to register another team as well as one additional adjudicator – in fact, you are even obliged to register the second adjudicator because of the n-1 rule. In addition, the strict application of the n-1 rule means that those institutions, who are now about to register their first (and only) team, are not able to register any adjudicators. Please do your maths to find out if your institution is allowed to register another judge or not. Please note that the registration system will also be counting, so you will be barred from registering additional judges if their participation is not required by the n-1 rule.

 

This limitation is absolutely necessary because of the massive amount of adjudicators that registered during Phase 1. As we did not expect so many judges to register already in Phase 1, we are compelled to disallow registration of independent adjudicators in Phase 2. We accept n-1 adjudicators, because their registration is a necessary prerequisite for registering the teams. A waiting list is created also for adjudicators.

 

Registration procedure: Other than that the procedure is the same as in Phase 1. Again, you are asked to register using the registration form found on our homepage http://www.eudc2008.eu. After filling out and submitting the form, an automatic invoice will be generated. If you choose to pay by credit card, you NEED TO enter your credit card details immediately. If something happens during the registration and you are for some reason unable to do this, you should contact our Payments Coordinator Piret Poopuu at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it , who will instruct you further. If you wish to pay by bank transfer, please save or print the invoice and then proceed to pay in your chosen bank. All the payment details for the transfer can be found on the invoice, in case of additional questions please, again, contact Piret. The login passwords you have been given are not meant for paying and can not be used for this, so please do not try to login at our homepage with the given password to make the payment.

 

Registrants will then have until 13 April 2008 to pay the participation fee of 210EUR per participant. Subject to an eligibility check on institutions, we will confirm their places after payment is made and received. Please make sure you forward the invoice and the payment request to the payers in due time and also check that they make the payment in due time. Otherwise you may be in trouble once the payment deadline approaches (as we experienced during Phase 2). If you are not sure the payment reaches us by April 13th, please send us a document confirming that the bank transfer has been made (copy of the payment order, confirmation letter from the bank etc.). If you pay by credit card, please make sure that your credit card limit is sufficient for us to debit the money from your card.

 

After the general team cap of 160 is filled we will close the registration and a waiting list is created. If any of the registered teams, whose participation has not yet been confirmed, should drop out, teams will be pulled up from the institutional waiting list according to their registration time. The same applies for judges after adjudicator cap of 120 is reached. You are on our final list of participants only when your status has been changed from Registered to Confirmed.

 

If any team places remain available and there are no more institutions on the waiting list, we may make an open call once more, so that any remaining team places will be assigned to institutions on a first-come-first-served basis (even institutions that have 3 teams already).

 

In case of any questions regarding the registration procedure, please contact our Communications Director Maarja Teder at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it . But before sending your question, please check our homepage - the FAQs section and the Q&A and other posts under Info for participants. We have already answered a lot of questions during the past weeks and earlier, many of which are of use also during Phase 2, so we would greatly appreciate if you tried not to ask questions that have already been publicly answered.

 

We have also received a few important questions, which are answered below for everyone to read and take into consideration.

 

Questions & Answers

 

Q: What does it mean that only n-1 judges can register during Phase 2?

„I registered as an extra adjudicator for my university during phase 1. During phase 2 my university hopefully plans on sending  another team along with another adjudicator who is on the waiting list. Does the fact that I have registered myself as an adjudicator (because with my name on the list the university already has two judges) will prevent my university from registering another judge during phase 2? Is there any way to guarantee that my status as an extra judge will remain even during phase 2 or is there a possibility to shift my status from an institutional adjudicator to an independent adjudicator?"

 

As we have announced, in Phase 2 we are unfortunately not able to allow registration of independent adjudicators and extra adjudicators above the n-1 rule. However, the independent and extra adjudicators, who have registered  in Phase 1 and paid the participation fee, will remain enlisted. The limitation concerning adjudicators that was described above affects only new registrants.

 

We are not able nor willing to change the status of any participants registered so far. The situation described in the question above will lead to the consequence where your institution is not able to register any more judges. We suggest that you remain on the list and after consulting with representatives of your institution decide whether you wish to remain on the list yourself or simply concede your place to the other judge (since the names of participants can be changed during Phase 3). In this case you can simply substitute your name with his/hers and you will have to settle your accounts (participation fee) between yourselves. Another option is that you delete your registration in general, but we do not suggest this, as there are very few adjudicator places available, so you may lose your place altogether. In case you don't inform us of a different choice, the 2 judges registered so far are the only ones who can participate.

 

We hope that you understand our decision to limit the registration of judges. We were very surprised to see such great interest  in our event on the part of judges, that is why we did not deem it necessary to impose any limitations in Phase 1 (and initially neither in Phase 2). However, as 100 judges registered in Phase 1 – whereas the general adjudicator cap is 120 – we see no other option. This is the only way to guarantee that institutions that will be registering their team in Phase 2 will not be prevented from doing so because of the impossibility to register  the required  n-1 adjudicator.

 

Q: How do I get the password for login later?

During registration, please enter your correct personal e-mail address at the appropriate place on the form, because the password sent to you is personal. Make sure to enter a correct (!) address in the correct blank, otherwise you will not get the password. If you still encounter problems, please send an e-mail to This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Good luck to everyone with registration!  As the 120 places in Phase 1 were filled in only ca 50 minutes, there is probably no time to waste after registration opens this time either.


With best regards,

EUDC 2008 Tallinn team
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EUDC 2008 Tallinn payment deadline extended Print E-mail
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Sunday, 23 March 2008

Webmaster's 2 cents:

I've just written a post on how you should pay until NOW and stuff... And now I get a email saying that the deadline has been extended. That is great because that means that most of the people will  be able to pay on time and institutions won't be loosing places because of the payment problems. I had payment problems in the past because of all the international bank transfers etc. Good luck to everyone!

 

Dear registrants of EUDC 2008!

During the last days we’ve been getting a lot of e-mails about difficulties with payments. Due to the Easter holidays, Friday was (in most countries where EUDC 2008 registrants are from) and Monday is (in some countries) a free day because of a National Holiday. Now, we’ve been very strict about the payment deadline and we appreciate everybody’s efforts who were able to meet it, and hope you understand our following decision.

Because of the Holidays falling on critical dates of the payment process many of the teams were not able to meet the deadline because of banks and universities being of vacation. It’s nearly like force majeure in terms of transfering money internationaly and since we don’t want to annul registartion of about 1/5th of potential participants, we’re extending the payment deadline until March 25th 23:59 GMT.

Now, for a change we’ve been nice and we expect you to be as well:) So everybody who has not paid yet, we’re going to need your credit card details, bank transfer confirmation documents and/or questions & problems about payments by March 25th 14:00 GMT (end of office hours in Estravel company). That’s the last time you can reach Piret by phone, e-mail and/or fax.

Transfer confirmation documents

From March 25th we need a few days to confirm the participation of all the teams and judges who made the payments. We’d like to highlight that it’s taking us some time to confirm you, because irregardless of the fact that we have your transfer confirmation document, we will wait for your payments to arrive before gicing you a „Confirmed” status. We ask for the document to know if we should wait for the payment, so don’t be alarmed, if you have sent us the document and your statued has no been confirmed yet. So, in conclusion we will confirm the participation of the team and adjudicator only when we have actually received the money. In case you do not have a confirmed status on web site by now, it does not mean that we will not keep your registration – the bank transfers will take time and we hope to get all the teams confirmed by Thursday evening. Please check the web page on Friday (March 28th) to find out about your status.

Phase 2 of registration

Phase 2 of registration will begin as promised  - on March 31st. The only limitation we need to make is that only n-1 judges can register in Phase 2. That is because of an enormous amount of adjudicators registered in Phase 1. If any adjudicator places will be left available after the team cap has been met, maybe then independent adjudicators can register as well, but we would not promise you that right now.

Helina Loor EUDC 2008 Convener




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